Moving toward Body Liberation with Jes Baker

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The Dietitians Unplugged podcast was excited and honored to host Jes Baker, aka The Militant Baker, author of the books Landwhale and Things No One Will Tell Fat Girls: A Handbook for Unapologetic Living to talk about what body liberation means and how it can change our lives for the better.

Jes is a positive, progressive, and magnificently irreverent force to be reckoned with in the realm of self-love advocacy and mental health. She is internationally known for preaching the importance of body liberation, hard conversations, strong coffee, and even stronger language. Jes burst onto the body image scene when she created her own ads mocking Abercrombie & Fitch for discriminating against all body types – a move that landed her on the Today Show and garnered a loyal following for her raw, honest, and attitude-filled blog missives.

In this fantastic episode, she tells us about her revelation that she hadn’t been a fat child, turning insults into cool nicknames, and how talking about mental health can be healing.

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Show notes:

Learn more about Jes Baker

Read Jes’ writing at The Militant Baker

Check out Jes’ books Landwhale and Things No One Will Tell Fat Girls

Nike’s Plus Size Mannequin Backlash

Nike recently unveiled a new plus-size line of athletic clothing and with it, a plus-size mannequin on which to display the clothing. Makes sense, right? A plus-size mannequin to display plus-size clothing.

One journalist, however, railed against this move as “promoting obesity.” In this Dietitians Unplugged episode, Aaron and I talk about the reaction to the mannequin, both good and bad, how promoting obesity is not actually “a thing”, and the role that internalized weight stigma may have played in this reaction.

Episode 60 – Nike Plus-Size Mannequin Does NOT Promote Obesity

Show notes:

I’m not linking to the original article because it’s pretty mean, and you can search the Tanya Gold/Nike article if you want to read it (it’s pretty easy to find). Instead, here are some great articles clapping back.

Telegraph’s Fatphobic Take On Nike’s Plus-Size Mannequins Receives Backlash

Nike’s plus-sized mannequins don’t ‘promote’ obesity – they reflect reality. Why on earth is that an issue?

The Real Issue With Nike’s Plus Size Mannequins

Dances with Fat: Nike’s Plus Size Mannequins Uncover the Truth About Weight Stigma

Study showing lower mortality in “overweight” category (referenced)

You are already sick enough with Dr. Jennifer Gaudiani

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In this episode of the Dietitians Unplugged podcast, we were thrilled to talk to Dr. Jennifer Gaudiani of the Gaudiani Clinic in Denver, CO which provides in-person and telehealth care to people with current or a history of eating disorders.

Dr. G is the author of the book Sick Enough, a Guide to the Medical Complications of Eating Disorders. She talked to us about her journey to becoming a HAES-aligned doctor, and how she realized that HAES is the only ethical way to treat patients, especially those in larger bodies. She explains her “house on fire” analogy which helps those who struggle to understand that they are already sick enough with their eating disorder and don’t need to delay treatment any longer. We think everyone will benefit from listening to this podcast – patients and doctors alike.

Listen now:

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Episode 56 – Sick Enough with Dr. Jennifer Gaudiani

Show notes:

Gaudiani Clinic

Sick Enough, a Guide to the Medical Complications of Eating Disorders

Getting Back into Your Body

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Our bodies tell so much of the story of ourselves. In an ideal world, we’d be good friends with our bodies, appreciate them for what they allow us to experience of the world, and be in tune with what they tell us about those experiences. But because we don’t live in a perfect world, we can lose touch with the wisdom of our bodies. Or, because of past trauma, our bodies have become a scary place for us to be.

Getting back into our bodies can be a challenge, so we asked Tracy Brown, RDN, LD/N, a somatic nutrition therapist, how she helps people do just that. She talked about the effects of trauma on the body, how “feeling fat” isn’t really about body size at all, how the fight/flight/freeze reflex can keep us trapped in the diet cycle and how reconnecting with the body can help end the cycle.

And if you want to see body disconnection in action, I provided a spectacular example during this episode (you’ll probably know it when you hear it!). Last year was great professionally, but tough and also way too busy. I spent too much time working and growing, and not enough relaxing and regenerating. And I am someone that needs a fair amount of relaxation in order to function optimally for the long run. When we recorded this episode, I was experiencing the late effects of total body breakdown: exhaustion, headaches, and a real difficulty with concentration. It’s been a hard lesson in knowing my limits and learning to respect my body, but life is always a work in progress!

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HAES Care for Diabetes

Rebecca Scritchfield and I are working hard on a new, expanded offering of our weight-inclusive diabetes groups. Make sure to sign up on this page to be one of the first to find out when it launches.

Is there a size limit for HAES?

Cover2People often send us questions for our Dietitians Unplugged podcast. We love getting questions and once in a while we’ll pick one to answer in our show. This one in particular was one we felt was probably on the minds of many people for whom HAES was a completely new concept.

Our listener wrote:

I just listened to Dietitians Unplugged episode about Tess Holiday. Can you explain to me your feelings around obesity in a little more context. I am confused with what you actually promote around being very overweight. I do understand intuitive eating.  And let me note, I’m not commenting on Tess Holiday specifically or her being on a cover of a magazine. I’m talking about obesity in general. In your opinion obesity is not bad? How can you support that opinion if obesity is linked to an endless number of medical conditions? I see how one can be overweight but still healthy. Just as someone can be skinny and unhealthy. But at a certain point in time, if you are so over weight that you are declared obese then you have fat crushing your major organisms, you are shortening your life, and setting yourself up for a difficult aging processes. How can someone with that amount of excess weight still “healthy.”  Thank you for reading, your inquisitive listener.

To be very honest, I wasn’t sure if at first we were being trolled. But I sometimes forget what a wonderful little HAES bubble I live in much of the time, both in my mind, and online (and even IRL with most of my local friends and acquaintances), and I realize that in fact, most people haven’t even heard of HAES and might have questions (and I’m pretty sure that early on, this was one of the skeptical questions I had very early on when being introduced to HAES). 

For those of you who aren’t podcast listeners, I’ll give you the very quick and short answer to the question of, “Is there a size limit to HAES?”: No. Slightly longer answer: I feel that anyone of any size can benefit from Health at Every Size principles, and furthermore, dieting to lose weight is probably doing actual harm. My clients in large bodies have tried dieting more times than you can count, and aside from usually gaining even more weight than they lost in the first place, they come to be with extremely disordered eating and total confusion and frustration around the best way to take care of themselves with food and movement. And finally: I never promote a particular body size. To me, all bodies are good bodies. I am more interested in promoting the best, most sustainable and life-affirming ways to take care of the body a person has right now. 

If you want the longer, much more nuanced answer to our listener’s question, give this episode a listen!

Episode 52 – Is there a size limit to HAES?

 

HAES Focused Diabetes Care

Rebecca Scritchfield, RDN, of the Body Kindness book, and I have cooked up something wonderful for those with diabetes who don’t want to diet. Our HAES Care for Diabetes Concerns has been getting rave reviews from participants, and we are working hard to expand access to this program this year. Get on our priority email list to find out when this group is happening next!

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What is Orthorexia?

almondsMany of you have heard this word before: orthorexia. But what is it?

While not an official eating disorder listed in the DSM V, orthorexia is a growing concern in the ED world. The NEDA website tells us,

The term ‘orthorexia’ was coined in 1998 and means an obsession with proper or ‘healthful’ eating. Although being aware of and concerned with the nutritional quality of the food you eat isn’t a problem in and of itself, people with orthorexia become so fixated on so-called ‘healthy eating’ that they actually damage their own well-being.” However, since there is no official diagnostic criteria, it can be very hard to recognize. It’s kind of a “I know it when I see it” situation, which isn’t great for those who suffer from it, because it means many people are probably getting overlooked.

I have orthorexic clients, and they’ve sought help because their “healthy” food choices are starting to ruin their lives. They have anxiety at the thought of eating anything outside their rigid “clean eating” food rules. It’s beyond “healthy eating” and making choices that meet both satisfaction and nutrition needs. It’s an obsession, and sometimes becomes a full-time job.

Aaron and I decided to tackle the topic on our Dietitians Unplugged podcast when he found a blog post that felt dismissive of the issue. If you are wondering if your eating might qualify as orthorexia, give this podcast a listen, and if you think you need it because your life is not your own anymore, reach out to a professional for help.

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Show notes:

Read the blog that inspired this episode

Need Diabetes Care that isn’t Weight-Focused?

imageRebecca Scritchfield, RDN, and I run a HAES-based virtual support and education group that helps with self-care for diabetes and other metabolic concerns. Get on the email list so you can be the first to find out when our next group is open.

Feedback from participants has been great and we are helping people to get past the feelings of shame that sometimes come with a diabetes diagnosis, especially for those who are in larger bodies, and moving towards positive self-care. Learn more: HAES Care for Diabetes Concerns

Finding Fat-Friendly Health Care

DU + AmpleI am often painfully reminded of the fat phobia perpetuated by the medical community on a regular basis. Not just from my clients and others who have countless stories of being denied adequate health care because of their weight, but also from my own personal experience.

I was 15 years old when I went to the doctor for my annual check-up, stepped on the scale, and was told that I was getting “too heavy” and would have to eat differently. Since at age 15 I was still largely reliant on my mother for meals and my school cafeteria for lunch, I could not imagine what “eat differently” looked like, especially as it pertained to my weight. Luckily, my Mom must have delivered a private screed to this doctor (the one that later dismissed her expanding belly as “weight gain” instead of the ovarian cancer it actually was) because he never mentioned it after that and my strategy to never get on the scale again worked until my early 20s, when I turned to dieting to manage a major life crisis. Notably, after that comment from my doctor, my eating became increasingly disordered as I internalized the shame of that visit.

I was reminded of all this the other day when I went to a “sleep class” to diagnose possible sleep apnea (a long shot, but my doctor thought it was worth a try for some recent stuff going on). The person leading the class explained how to use the equipment we would take home to monitor our sleep that night. She also said, “If you are diagnosed with sleep apnea and you weigh too much, you will have to lose weight, because that is probably why you have it.” She went on to say that thin people had it for other reasons, and that once we lost weight, they could look to see if we also had it for those other reasons. As though our weight was an impermeable barrier that would obscure any other problems we could potentially have.

It took all the willpower in the world for me not to stand up on a table and have my Norma Rae fat-solidarity moment, and luckily we found that no matter what we weighed, if we had sleep apnea, we would get the APAP machine anyway. Because, you know, “you need to be able to sleep so you can lose weight.” Whereas I thought we needed good sleep for health and to feel well, silly me!!

Anyway, all this to say that we need medical care and medical providers that aren’t fat phobic, that don’t prescribe interventions that are temporary at best, and who provide us with the medical care that people in smaller, more conforming bodies get. But where can we find these providers?

That’s where Ample comes in. Aaron and I recently did a podcast with Alissa Sobo, one of the founders of Ample, a rating site for people in marginalized bodies (think fat, trans, people of color, disabled people). The creators of Ample know that when someone fears stigmatization from the doctor, they don’t go, and that can lead to worse health in the long run. But we need to know who can provide stigma-free health care – and that’s where Ample comes in.

I hope you’ll give this great Dietitians Unplugged episode a listen to find out more about Ample and how you can help build this amazing resource. THIS is how we exercise the power of voice that we do have — and we CAN create a better future.

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Listen now:

Episode 50 – Finding Fat Friendly Providers on Ample with Alissa Sobo

Show notes:

Is it Ample? Aaron and Glenys talk to Alissa Sobo, the creator of Ample, the first app that rates businesses specifically on their accessibility and inclusiveness towards marginalized bodies (fat, trans, people of color and more). In this episode, Alissa talks about her origin story of being fat-shamed at the doctor when she was pregnant and why she decided she needed to create a review site for people in marginalized bodies whose needs are just not being met. She also explains how this amazing resources works and how we can all help build on it. This is something all our listeners can help contribute to and we can’t wait to introduce you to Ample! BONUS CONTENT: stay tuned to the very end to listen to our first fun bonus content!

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Why Body Image Work is Crucial

woman sunsetA few months ago I went to a Body Image Workshop hosted by Marci Evans, RD and Fiona Sutherland, RD. But…what’s a dietitian’s work got to do with body image healing??

When we are in school getting our nutrition degrees, we learn all about food safety, how to counsel a nutritious diet, a metric ton of chemistry, and medical nutrition therapy to treat various conditions and diseases. We spent some time learning nutrition counseling techniques too.

But rarely are we prepared for what is often at the root of so many eating problems: a fractured relationship with our body image.

In school, they never gave us the language to understand this, for ourselves or other people, and they certainly never gave us the idea that we might also help the healing.

But in fact, we need to be able to help our clients heal not just their relationship to food and eating, but also their bodies.

I’m not talking about doing the work of a therapist. I’m talking about being able to listen and validate and understand WHY someone could hate their bodies so much that they lose their ability to eat in any peaceful, nourishing way. And helping them to find ways to reconnect with their bodies with self-compassion.

We CAN and SHOULD talk about this with our clients, and in the below episode of Dietitians Unplugged, Aaron and I talk more about how we as dietitians can start doing this work.

Episode 40 – Body Image Work is Crucial

Summer Podcast Round Up 2: From Our Loud Inner Critics to Sugar Addiction

Dietitians Unplugged Episode 37 – Aaron and Glenys Tackle Their Inner Critics

Cover2We all have an inner critic. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t. It’s the voice that’s try to keep us safe by avoiding unnecessary risk.

So, yes, sometimes that little voice can be really helpful in keeping us safe…but sometimes it can hold us back by sending damaging and unhelpful thoughts.

In this Dietitians Unplugged podcast episode, Aaron and I talked about our own inner critics, how they manifest, and how we deal with them. This is a truly unplugged (and sometimes unhinged!) discussion that  we’re sure you’ll enjoy and hopefully will give you a few more tools for your self-care toolbox.

Episode 37 – Aaron and Glenys Tackle Their Inner Critics

Dietitians Unplugged Episode 38 – ED Treatment for Marginalized People with Gloria Lucas

DU + GloriaIn this fabulous episode, Aaron and I were thrilled to welcome to the podcast Gloria Lucas, founder of Nalgona Positivity Pride (NPP). I got to see Gloria speak a few years ago at the 2016 BEDA conference on the role of colonialism in historical trauma and we’ve been excited to have her on ever since then.

Gloria shared her story of how and why she came to found NPP, which helps to provide eating disorder resources to marginalized people.  She also talked about how eating disorder communities must learn to do better to include people of color into the discussion and make treatment more available and inclusive of marginalized people.

Episode 38 – ED Treatment for Marginalized People with Gloria Lucas

Links:

Nalgona Positivity Pride

Nalgona Positivity Pride Etsy Store

 

Dietitians Unplugged Episode 39 – Is Sugar Addiction a Real Thing? with Tiffany Haug

DU + TiffanyEver wonder if you’re addicted to sugar? Or some other kind of food? Aaron and I talked to Tiffany Haug, MS, RD, EDOC, who broke down the science of addiction for us, and explains why your diet history makes all the difference in how you approach highly palatable foods. Tiffany also talked about the problem with how food addiction is studied and the problems with the Yale Food Addiction Scale.

Episode 39 – Is Sugar Addiction a Real Thing? with Tiffany Haug

 

 

Summer Podcast Round Up 1: From Self-Care to Body Love

Dietitians Unplugged Podcast Episode 34: Healthism vs. Self-Care with Lucy Aphramor

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I’ve been a little remiss in the last few months about updating this blog with our latest Dietitians Unplugged podcast episodes. I have been crazy busy this past year – in reality, too busy, because I was trying to do way too much.

It took it’s toll. I had to find ways to triage everything in my life. That meant I had to pick between writing, which I really enjoy, and doing the podcast, which I really love too. It even meant I had to let go of things like updating this blog with the podcast, which pricked at me frequently but also was just something I didn’t have room for.

I termed this self-care. No one can do everything all the time. Some things have to go by the wayside. Until something gave way in my schedule (which it finally did) I decided to only do the very most important things in my life — that was spending time with my partner, going to my job, caring for my clients, podcasting and resting.

The topic of self-care makes a great introduction to this podcast we did back in February about the necessity of self-care, and how “healthlism” — the belief that health is our sole responsibility, and even obligation, and is not affected by our economic status, race, environment, sex, etc. — isn’t really making us healthy in any meaningful way.

UK-based radical dietitian Lucy Aphramor guided us through this topic with her usual eloquence (no surprise that she’s also a poet).  As a radical dietitian, she focuses on the deep roots of what causes judgement, war and shame.

Episdoe 34 – Healthism vs. Self-Care with Lucy Aphramor


Dietitians Unplugged Episode 35 – Metaphors & Storytelling in healing Eating Disorders with Dr. Anita Johnston

DU + Dr. Anita JEating in the Light of the Moon by Dr. Anita Johnson, eating disorder psychologist and storyteller, is one of the seminal works on eating disorders and one of the books that people tell me first helped them in their recovery from EDs and diet culture. We were so thrilled to have Dr. Johnson on our show and talk about how story-telling can be integral to our healing.

In addition to authoring this amazing book, Dr. Johnson is co-creator of the Light of the Moon Cafe, a series of online interactive courses and women’s support circles, and Soul Hunger workshops. She is currently the Clinical Director of Ai Pono Hawaii eating disorder programs with out-patient programs on Oahu and the Big Island of Hawaii, and an ocean-front residential program on Maui.

She also gifted our listeners with this handy guide to help discover the meaning behind your food cravings or phobias.

Dietitians Unplugged Episode 35 – Metaphors & Storytelling in healing Eating Disorders with Dr. Anita Johnston


Dietitians Unplugged Episode Episode 36 – You are More than Your Body with Summer Innanen

DU + summerOne of my absolute favorite people in the body positive, anti-diet world is Summer Innanen. She has a genuine, no BS way about her that I just can’t resist. And it’s not just because we’re both Canadian, I swear!

Summer is a professionally trained coach specializing in body image, self-worth, and confidence. She helps women all over the world through her private and group coaching to break out of the diet culture cage and cultivate their inner, rampant untameability so they can wear, say and do what they want. She is the best-selling author of Body Image Remix, creator of the You, On Fire online program, and host of Fearless Rebelle Radio, a podcast dedicated to anti-dieting, body positivity, and feminism.

Listen now:

Episode 36 – You are More than Your Body with Summer Innanen

 

HAES Care for Diabetes is starting again soon!

Rebecca Scritchfield and I are running our virtual groups again focusing on non-diet, non-weight-focused care for diabetes and other related metabolic conditions. Two tracks available starting September 11 and 13. Group size is limited so sign up soon!

Go to HAES Care for Diabetes to find out if this is for you!